Feb. 4, 2026

Redefining Normal: The Superhuman Potential Within Us All - Heidi Popp - Part 2

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The core of our discussion centers on the distinction between complexity and complication, particularly as it pertains to human perception and understanding of reality. We delve into the notion that while the fabric of reality is inherently complex, it is our human inclination that renders it complicated. This episode brings forth the idea of iteration rather than reincarnation, suggesting a continuous evolution of consciousness that contributes to our current transformational journey. We also explore the imperative of fostering an educational environment conducive to individual expression, as this is essential for unlocking the innate potential within each child. Ultimately, our conversation emphasizes the need for a systemic shift towards recognizing and nurturing unique individual talents, thereby facilitating a more profound connection to the greater reality we inhabit. The conversation delves into the distinction between complexity and complication, asserting that while the universe is inherently complex, human actions often introduce unnecessary complications. The speakers emphasize the importance of understanding the intricacies of reality—its interconnectedness and the various components that define it. This understanding allows individuals to perceive their place within the grand tapestry of existence and to engage actively in the transformative processes that shape the future. They discuss the notion of iterations rather than reincarnations, positing that our experiences are not merely repetitions but rather evolutions of our soul's journey through different frequencies and realities. The dialogue encourages listeners to reflect on their roles in the ongoing transformation of society, urging a departure from outdated paradigms and an embracing of new perspectives that honor individuality and creative expression. As the discussion unfolds, it touches upon the necessity of reevaluating educational systems that often stifle creativity and critical thinking. The speakers advocate for a model of education that nurtures individual talents and allows for exploration beyond conventional boundaries. They lament the rigidity of current educational practices, suggesting that a more holistic approach could foster an environment where children flourish and discover their unique abilities. The dialogue also critiques societal pressures that compel individuals to conform, arguing that true empowerment stems from recognizing and cultivating one's innate gifts. This conversation serves as a call to action, urging individuals to participate in the reimagining of educational paradigms that prioritize personal growth and self-discovery. In the latter part of the episode, the speakers address the importance of fostering a supportive community that celebrates diversity in skills and talents. They highlight the significance of mentorship and collaboration in nurturing the next generation, emphasizing that when children are given the freedom to explore their interests, they can achieve remarkable feats. The conversation underscores the need for an educational framework that not only imparts knowledge but also encourages students to take ownership of their learning journeys. Through shared experiences and collective growth, the speakers convey a vision of a future where individuals are empowered to express their true selves and contribute meaningfully to society. This narrative encapsulates the essence of their discussion, which is centered on the belief that everyone possesses the potential for greatness when supported in an environment that values authenticity and creativity.

Takeaways:

  1. The distinction between complicated and complex is vital for understanding our reality.
  2. Human beings tend to complicate the intricate nature of the world around them.
  3. An education that fosters individual expression is essential for personal development.
  4. True learning begins when individuals explore their innate interests and passions.
  5. The current education system often suppresses creativity instead of encouraging it.
  6. We must recognize the power of individual experiences to inspire collective transformation.

Links referenced in this episode:

  1. nexusnextcast.com

00:00 - Untitled

00:00 - Understanding Complexity

00:13 - The Complexity of Reality and Our Role in Transformation

12:30 - The Power of Individuality in Education

19:00 - The Importance of Individual Expression in Education

30:26 - Exploring Superhuman Abilities Through Consciousness

36:51 - Exploring the Concept of Superhuman Abilities

Speaker A

We were talking earlier about the difference between complicated and complex.

Speaker A

Right?

Speaker A

And complicated in the way I look at the use of that word.

Speaker A

That's what we do to things.

Speaker A

That's what humans do to things.

Speaker A

We make things complicated.

Speaker A

The reality we inhabit is complex, but it's not complicated.

Speaker A

It's got a lot of parts, it's got a lot of delineations, levels, distinctions, differentiations, all those things.

Speaker A

But it's all connected.

Speaker A

Once you understand the fabric of reality and the way that energy, frequency, vibration expresses themselves, what their characteristics, natures, habits, the attributes, you look at it and you go, okay, now I can see how everything fits.

Speaker A

I can see how this manifests this way and how this acts that way.

Speaker A

But this education, this reimagining that we are a part of, that we're here to do.

Speaker A

And I know that, you know, people talk about starseeds and you know, reincarnation.

Speaker A

I prefer the term iteration because I think that we iterate, we don't reincarnate because that kind of implies coming back as what from what you were before and having some kind of link to it, which I think we do have.

Speaker A

But that's on a realm of frequencies and the infinite field of frequencies that we barely even are aware of, let alone have any kind of knowledge or understanding about.

Speaker A

So I think our frequency stamps iterate.

Speaker A

Yeah, we just kind of come back in another cycle and do something different.

Speaker A

Or maybe we have some kind of karmic agreement, relationship, responsibility that we had in a previous iteration that we are going to take care of in the next with the other frequency stamps that we made those agreements with.

Speaker A

But that's a long way of going around saying that we're here to do what we're doing right now.

Speaker A

We're here to be a part of this great transformation, this transition from what was to what it should be.

Speaker A

And I think that Ken's talk with the work of the RSA animate.

Speaker A

I just love the whiteboards.

Speaker B

I know, that was so good.

Speaker B

Just a quick, super quick side note.

Speaker B

Have you heard of Hans Wilhelm?

Speaker B

He does a whiteboard as well.

Speaker B

I really love him.

Speaker B

He's a little Swedish fella.

Speaker B

Have you seen him?

Speaker B

I just love him.

Speaker B

But he has something about that whiteboard.

Speaker B

Man,

Speaker A

I'm old school whiteboard.

Speaker A

I've got up here, I've got eight feet, my four foot whiteboard.

Speaker B

I got my whiteboard.

Speaker A

See, that's just yet another thing that we resonate with.

Speaker B

Yes, yes.

Speaker A

I think that it's really important to get people to understand why it is what it is right now.

Speaker A

And just by showing that, you show the holes and the gaps and the kinks and all the things that are in the system that are clogging it and keeping it from being something that can actually add value to the way that people think about.

Speaker A

It's not schooling.

Speaker A

You know, Mark Twain's famous quip of, I never let my schooling get in the way of my education.

Speaker A

This whole school system, what we have right now is complete crap.

Speaker A

It's broken from top to bottom.

Speaker B

Yeah, but even like what you just shown, though, I think people can see it and retain it, but some people get lost and then fighting about that or just regurgitating what they're doing to us.

Speaker B

It's like, okay, okay, okay, okay, we got all the information.

Speaker B

Now flip it, change it, do something.

Speaker B

What are you going to do about it?

Speaker A

How do we fix it?

Speaker B

Yes, it's because there's so many talking heads right now.

Speaker B

And some are very new to this.

Speaker B

They're very new.

Speaker B

And they're going to dot connect and go, holy smokes, look what they're doing to the kids.

Speaker B

And you're like, okay, you see?

Speaker B

You see the pattern?

Speaker B

Now change.

Speaker B

Now do something.

Speaker B

You know, you got to make action with this.

Speaker B

Because we're in this, the information war, where it's just.

Speaker B

It's a lot of talking and passing of information, but there's a select few doing action.

Speaker B

And if we really want to expedite this process, we got to have more people doing some action.

Speaker B

So I.

Speaker B

That's why I really love that, because I know there's some that are still in old systems, and it's like, they see it, but they don't see the big picture.

Speaker B

And, well, it's working for my kid.

Speaker B

It's like, just give them the picture and do, you know, maybe it'll activate something to do some action, to make a change.

Speaker A

Well, that's the.

Speaker A

To me, whenever I do my observational analysis of what's going on, I start in the clouds.

Speaker A

I get up 50,000ft and look around and see the field, and there's so much.

Speaker A

Again, the tsunami of shit and the deluge of data that everybody's inundated with.

Speaker A

Nobody's taught how to process that.

Speaker A

I didn't get any training how to process this amount of information.

Speaker A

It happened through osmosis, I guess, over time, constantly looking at it.

Speaker A

Well, wait a minute, I heard that.

Speaker A

Oh, what's this over here?

Speaker A

Oh, shit.

Speaker A

Look at what's connected to that osmo.

Speaker A

And you have to be willing to let Go of whatever that ego that you have or programming.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

And.

Speaker A

Or that has been programmed.

Speaker A

I think the ego, which has been.

Speaker A

Everybody says it's a derogatory word or you shouldn't have one, or you need to clamp down on it.

Speaker A

It's like, no, the ego is the self.

Speaker B

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker A

What's been programmed to the ego is what you're seeing come out.

Speaker A

It's expressed as what you call ego.

Speaker B

Oh, that's a good one.

Speaker B

Yeah, you're right.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

I have to be mindful of when I use that, because you're right.

Speaker B

That's usually a fallback.

Speaker B

But actually, I.

Speaker B

Trying to teach kids to be empowered by controlling and owning their.

Speaker B

And strengthening their ego, so.

Speaker B

You're right.

Speaker A

Well, it's just re.

Speaker A

It's just a reframe of the words people have got.

Speaker A

You know, they've.

Speaker A

It's just like judgment, and you can't judge anything.

Speaker A

It's like, well, judging is how our minds work.

Speaker A

We make a judgment.

Speaker A

Every time you and I are making judgments as we're having this conversation, we're synchronizing synapses.

Speaker B

Yeah, right.

Speaker B

I do.

Speaker B

I, I, Yeah, I champion that, too, because, yeah, parents, like, stop judging me.

Speaker B

Other parents, I'm like, I'm assessing.

Speaker B

We have to assess and, and understand is this is safe.

Speaker B

I mean, this is human nature.

Speaker B

Judge a situation and react.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

And this whole thing about being offended.

Speaker A

Right.

Speaker A

You can't offend anyone.

Speaker A

It's like, wait a minute.

Speaker A

First of all.

Speaker A

And if you're offended at something, it's because you have some unresolved internal issue with whatever has triggered you into being offended.

Speaker A

You know, when I turned 40, I lost an ego, and I gained a purpose.

Speaker A

And what I meant by ego is how people would react to me.

Speaker A

I stopped gaining, caring about it as much.

Speaker A

It wasn't the big thing about, oh, I got to be careful of what I'm saying because somebody might think that I'm, you know, being an idiot or an asshole.

Speaker A

It's like, yeah, we all are at times.

Speaker A

That's a part of our nature and characteristics as well.

Speaker A

But I helped a friend who was an author who made a bunch of children's books called Indigo Dreams, and she had published them.

Speaker A

And I said, you know, Laura, you really need to do these as audiobooks.

Speaker A

And this is in early 2005, somewhere around there.

Speaker A

And so she said, really?

Speaker A

I said, yeah, that's going to be a big deal.

Speaker A

So we produced, like, seven different books on audio.

Speaker A

I produced it in my studio and on the Adult version.

Speaker A

We did them for kids.

Speaker A

I think the first one was 5 to 7, and then we did 8 to 13, and then we did teens, and then we did an adult version.

Speaker A

And on the adult version, and I wrote the music and produced all of them, and we had various voice actors on the others, but I did the adult version.

Speaker A

So it was Indigo Dreams.

Speaker A

Adult.

Speaker A

Well, we put it on Amazon, and it went crazy.

Speaker A

And the reviews were just off the charts.

Speaker A

We were getting psychologists and counselors and all kinds of people going, I give this to all my patients.

Speaker A

I recommend this to everybody.

Speaker A

Parents were going, I got this for me, but my daughters and my sons are listening to it.

Speaker A

So we were going, wow, this is great.

Speaker A

We're making a difference, right?

Speaker A

We're helping people.

Speaker A

And then one day, Lori calls me up and says, have you seen Amazon reviews lately?

Speaker A

And I said, no.

Speaker A

And she says, you really need to go take a look.

Speaker B

Oh, Dal.

Speaker A

And some guy got on there and very eloquently ripped the entire thing.

Speaker A

A new one.

Speaker A

He went on about how poor my voiceover was.

Speaker A

The script was terrible, the production was bad, the music sucked.

Speaker A

I mean, he just covered it all.

Speaker A

And it wasn't nasty.

Speaker A

It was very well written.

Speaker A

And I read it, and I went, oh, well, there's a perspective that I didn't think about.

Speaker A

And as I'm thinking about it, I kind of agree with him maybe on that point.

Speaker A

Right.

Speaker A

And this is after like, 50 or 100 awesome reviews, and this guy just ripped it.

Speaker A

I went, okay.

Speaker A

So I replied to him and I thanked him.

Speaker B

Nice.

Speaker A

Because I realized it wasn't at me personally.

Speaker A

He didn't know who I was from Adam.

Speaker B

Okay.

Speaker A

Right.

Speaker A

He just knew that the work.

Speaker A

Whoever did the work, he had issues with.

Speaker A

And it didn't bother me.

Speaker A

And Lori called me.

Speaker A

Did you read it yet?

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Did you read it?

Speaker A

And I said, yeah.

Speaker A

She says, what'd you think?

Speaker A

I said, it's pretty damn good.

Speaker B

He's got some points.

Speaker B

Wow, that's awesome.

Speaker A

Aren't you pissed?

Speaker A

I said, no.

Speaker A

You can't make something and expect it to resonate with everyone.

Speaker B

That's beautiful.

Speaker B

And that person sounds very confident in their clear.

Speaker B

Their clear perspective.

Speaker B

And that's.

Speaker B

And went against the norm of 1500 other things.

Speaker B

That's pretty ballsy and right.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

Wow.

Speaker A

So to me, that ties back to helping to this point that Ken Robinson made.

Speaker A

In that video, we just showed the individual and what that individual, what makes that individual, what they resonate with, what puts wind in their sails and floats their boats.

Speaker A

They're so different.

Speaker A

Everyone is different.

Speaker A

And the whole idea of this.

Speaker A

And I don't want to get on this rant.

Speaker A

I'll just say this and then we'll move on to the next one.

Speaker A

But this whole thing about identity and the collective inclusion of a vast variety of identities is this major serious mental fornication of just nonsense.

Speaker A

Because if you think about it.

Speaker A

Well, if you're really about identity, why aren't you working on making sure that the individual that is that identity.

Speaker C

Yeah.

Speaker A

Is the focus.

Speaker B

I. I think it's a sad attempt of trying to.

Speaker B

Like that whiteboard we saw.

Speaker B

It's their attempt of going in the school.

Speaker B

C. C. We're letting them be individuals as they take the same test and study the same information and re.

Speaker B

Answer the bell.

Speaker B

But they're all, no, if they're a cat, they're a cat.

Speaker B

It's like, wait, I see what you did there.

Speaker B

That's not what we're talking about.

Speaker B

That's not quite an individualized education.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

Very sad attempt.

Speaker B

And more segregation, more division, more fighting.

Speaker B

Keep the people fighting.

Speaker B

Bread and circuses, yada, yada.

Speaker B

The whole thing.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Isn't it interesting how the collective inclusion is really a segregation.

Speaker C

Yeah, that's it.

Speaker C

Yeah.

Speaker A

And they don't.

Speaker A

And they hate segregation.

Speaker A

But they do the exact same with these other words that they've taken and hijacked and confused everybody with.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

Yep, yep.

Speaker B

They do it to themselves.

Speaker A

So I know.

Speaker A

I feel that.

Speaker A

I know.

Speaker A

My personal perspective and speculation that the work that you're doing, the path that you're on, the mission of purpose is what this great reimagining is, how it's going to happen, how it's going to unfold, because it is about the individual, and it starts with the children.

Speaker B

I thank you for seeing that.

Speaker B

And I feel the same.

Speaker B

And I feel this is a mission, and I know there's so many others that are stepping into it as well.

Speaker B

And that little graphic of the little meat suit unzipping and the child coming out like music notes or whatever, the individual child.

Speaker B

That's the goal.

Speaker B

That's what.

Speaker B

That's what we're doing.

Speaker B

We're protecting them in a safe environment to just bloom and emerge and whatever that looks like to them and whatever skill set they have.

Speaker B

And I think it almost helped not being in the education system for 30 years and being somewhere else and just developing my human instinct so that I can come back into it without the programming and without all that and just the faith of.

Speaker B

And as a mom to protect My kids, but just to, you know, not be swayed and to just find.

Speaker B

Find my tribe within it.

Speaker B

But it was exactly that model of letting the individual, even if it's one on one or group of five.

Speaker B

The group think model.

Speaker B

Yes.

Speaker B

That's what my daughter's going through in the middle school there.

Speaker B

I mean, actually, every class is the.

Speaker B

The testing, the midterm, the final.

Speaker B

You know, it's just to see their depth of knowledge.

Speaker B

Answer this in a paragraph.

Speaker B

And it's not like there's a right answer.

Speaker B

They just want to see how deep can you go with your knowledge.

Speaker B

Show me your layers of intellect.

Speaker B

And it's not like, well, you got that wrong.

Speaker B

It's like, I love how you brought that back together.

Speaker B

I loved how you shared your thought with me.

Speaker B

Like, it's.

Speaker B

It's critical thinking to the nth degree, and it's really teaching the child to have a voice and empowering them and figuring out who they are before they get released into the world so they don't have to find out the hard way and conform and then feel like they have to break free and.

Speaker B

Or numb or they're starting off with confident feet.

Speaker B

You know, that's.

Speaker B

That's kind of.

Speaker B

I'm, you know, I'm watching friends who are in the old systems and their kids feel so like, yeah, I'm keeping up with the Joneses.

Speaker B

But then they're free and they're like, they don't know what to do.

Speaker B

So then they get lost.

Speaker B

Are they numb?

Speaker B

There's the drugs, the alcohol, the screens, the do what's easy.

Speaker B

And they're just.

Speaker B

You're not trying.

Speaker B

They're not putting their best foot forward and trying something new or thinking that they're just as important as anybody else.

Speaker B

It's.

Speaker B

It's sometimes easier for children brought up in the old model to get small.

Speaker B

That's where they've been trained to feel safe.

Speaker B

And it's.

Speaker B

It's maybe scary, but it's brave.

Speaker B

And it's also the superhuman power is to train, quote, unquote, I hate that word.

Speaker B

A child to go big, to expand as big as they can, and with whatever's brimming on the inside that wants to come out, because those are their innate skills trying to come out.

Speaker B

And yeah, they've been buried, they've been numbed, they've been suppressed.

Speaker B

But no longer.

Speaker A

The expression.

Speaker A

Exactly.

Speaker A

The expression of the individual needs to be unleashed.

Speaker C

Yeah.

Speaker B

Yep, yep.

Speaker B

Safely.

Speaker B

And with.

Speaker B

With mentors who are like, nice unleashing, way to go.

Speaker B

What else you Got, you know, not

Speaker A

stop unleashing and giving them an environment where there's the, the expression, the information, the stimulus to go see.

Speaker A

Some kids are just going to be way awesome in music.

Speaker A

Some kids are going to be way awesome in arts, in image and painting and sculpting and whatever.

Speaker A

Some kids are going to be analytically minded and you're going, dude, engineering, you might want to look into that.

Speaker A

You might find that fascinating.

Speaker B

Yes, yes.

Speaker A

It's like what Ken talked about there.

Speaker A

It's really unleashing and the spirit, the inherent nature resonance vibe, the frequency and vibration that makes up that little unique frequency stamp that just dropped into the planet and has a whole lot of life ahead of it.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

What does it want to do?

Speaker A

What is it naturally attracted to?

Speaker A

And that's where learning really begins, in my opinion.

Speaker B

Agreed.

Speaker A

Because you're learning that you're attracted to something, you have an affinity, an interesting, some type of attraction to something that you have a different vibe with.

Speaker A

And the current system suppresses all that bullshit or suppresses it as bullshit because they go, well, no, you can't go color outside the lines and definitely don't color off the book and off the table and onto the floor.

Speaker A

Yeah, yeah, it's like, well, wait a minute.

Speaker A

But that's where all the imagination is.

Speaker B

Even the, there this, the, even the segregation side within their system.

Speaker B

I love that part in the video when it says separating the subjects and going to different rooms.

Speaker B

I love that we have a place where in our one beautiful classroom we can do a multi subject task and we cover all aspects and then you bring in the teamwork element and the support element.

Speaker B

Hey, this is my strong suit.

Speaker B

I'll chew this part.

Speaker B

Hey, this is my strong suit.

Speaker B

I'll do this part and you lift each other up and you empower all just with the common tasks that can cover it all can cover math, science, physics, art in one beautiful lesson.

Speaker B

And that's the schoolhouse I'm working in that my kids are going to and it's uniquely theirs.

Speaker B

But I knew you, you know, you don't often find a middle school class where they're all friends and they're all recognize each other's strengths and they, they congratulate them for it.

Speaker B

They could, you know, they, they applaud them for it and they also seek them, their peers for assistance.

Speaker B

It's, it's quite beautiful and it expands their, their mind.

Speaker B

I'm noticing that that's expanding the intellect far more than the worksheet or something given to them, the peers are educating each other too.

Speaker B

So it's really.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

And then talk about the collective, inclusive of individual expression.

Speaker B

Talk about the.

Speaker A

Yeah, yeah, right.

Speaker B

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker B

I like, you know, as you said, the inclusion word.

Speaker B

I'm triggered.

Speaker B

Yes.

Speaker B

The expression part is genius.

Speaker B

I have to keep falling back on the eighth grade because we're about to fall into it.

Speaker B

But just a case in point, like the 8th grade projects, and you might have heard me share in other stories about that.

Speaker B

What they do for this program and to graduate is they're starting now.

Speaker B

My daughter's starting now in summer, finding a mentor.

Speaker B

She's going to be developing a skill set that's new, but it's very interesting and dear to her heart, but it's new to her and.

Speaker B

And parents are doing this.

Speaker B

She has to find the mentor.

Speaker B

She has to find the drive and the will and shape her own little program and project through the course of the year and then may be able to present it to adults, peers, start to finish what this looked like.

Speaker B

She's going to journal it.

Speaker B

She's going to check in with her mentor, you know, whether once a week for a few times a month, whatever, whatever's working for her, but it's them finding something.

Speaker B

You know, I'm really into this.

Speaker B

I don't know how to do it, but I'm really into it.

Speaker B

Hey, there's an adult who's really good at that.

Speaker B

I'm going to ask them if they want to mentor me.

Speaker B

And they're.

Speaker B

They're doing it all themselves.

Speaker B

And it's.

Speaker B

It's really juicy.

Speaker B

Even when she came to me with her project, I'm like, you want to do what?

Speaker B

And mama bear's like, oh, my baby.

Speaker B

Like, how's she going to do that?

Speaker B

I'm going to help.

Speaker B

I'm going to jump in.

Speaker B

And of course my avenues are dead ends.

Speaker B

And I realize, well, that's little universal sign.

Speaker B

She's got to do this herself.

Speaker B

And she tapped into all of it herself.

Speaker B

And it's bringing out her music, her love of music, her love of sound engineering that I had no idea it would go that route.

Speaker B

Her composing and mixing and then tech, because she's very good at tech.

Speaker B

And there are programs out there that I.

Speaker B

You've seen me on this stuff.

Speaker B

And she's going to learn it start to finish.

Speaker B

And her presentation at a hippie dippy unplugged school is going to be sharing text saying, look at how useful this is and what it helped me create.

Speaker B

And I'm just thrilled to pieces for Her.

Speaker B

And I've literally been hands off and watching her connect with a mentor.

Speaker B

And I did find through my Rolodex, I go, well, I do have this tinfoil friend who runs.

Speaker B

Thank you.

Speaker B

A recording studio in la and we get to have a tour so she can see what an engineer looks like out in the real world.

Speaker B

But then now see what programs she can do at home to do herself, similar to that big thousand dollar an hour rental.

Speaker B

She can do it.

Speaker B

And I'm just over the moon.

Speaker B

I'm like, she's just turned 14, so what this could do to her to awaken, like, well, now I can try this, now I can try that.

Speaker B

She can step out into a career.

Speaker B

And I mean, to each his own.

Speaker B

But this is not a household that is like, well, then you have to go to college and move away and have that experience.

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I'm going to see where her skill sets develop and what is her next plan of action.

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We also noticed a program here in California.

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If you go through a charter, which means you do get state funding for your homeschool journey.

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So you're kind of tapped in.

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But I mean, I'm a taxpayer and those.

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I could use those funds to help my journey.

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She, at a certain level in high school, they get to go to college and take free courses.

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So she could graduate high school as a homeschooler with her BA already and then.

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Or associates, I think, and then go into something that of her choosing, like get those other things, those little requirements out of the way.

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There's.

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I went on a tangent there, but I'm noticing at her age, going into eighth grade, without the pressures of the standardized testings and things, she's already exploring an artistic way to creatively develop a career.

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Just like I think I was still like picking my nose at 14.

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Like, I don't know what I was doing there.

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You and me both.

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Now, is this.

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Is this Charlie that helped you with the video?

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Yes, she did my intro video with you guys help.

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Yeah, right.

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That was her.

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I just opened.

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I got.

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She goes, I'll do it on cap cut.

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I know how to do it.

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She's like.

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And I'm like, you're really good at this, Charlie.

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This might be something to explore.

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And then she's like, my project.

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So, yeah, that was all her doing.

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So basically, if I understand what you just said correctly, let me try to repackage it from my mind and mouth.

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Basically, you're experiencing the difference.

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If there is an.

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If there is even a difference between the superhuman and normal human with your own daughter?

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Yes.

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Oh, good.

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Circle back there.

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Yeah.

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As I really do believe everyone is capable of having superhuman abilities.

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There's just the human interference and programming and yada, yada, yada, all that, all those things.

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Whereas I, I have been not protecting her, but guiding her through a sovereign way of childhood and education and all that.

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And the results are speaking for themselves.

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She is creatively and intellectually developing at a pace that I didn't even provide for her.

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She put her, she's doing this, her, activating herself.

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And it had a lot to do with me going go girl and finding the right environment for her to do to, to be in this place.

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She does have an educator, a lead educator in her class.

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She's been with her now for, this will be her fourth year, the same educator.

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So she got to know her as well.

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And it's a safe environment for her to unzip her meat suit or your programming and try things.

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And I'm noticing that with her peers, you know, they're her peers.

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Her peers have been developing these projects themselves.

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I think one fellow wants to make a line of sneakers so he's getting the manufacturing and just this, the creative outlets they have.

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But what I, what I see the most just in a peer level is how they support one another.

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It's, it's in fact those that are too interested in what they're wearing or the labels they have.

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It's almost poo pooed.

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It's like, what are you doing?

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Who cares?

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You know, are you a bright light or not?

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You know, like, it's fascinating and it's exciting.

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It's exciting because this is just one little place and that you spread across the planet.

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Huge, huge shift, huge possibilities.

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Well, this brings me to one other quick share that I want to use as an example of what I think.

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What I think we both think is actually a part of the innate human experience, our innate characteristics and nature.

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And I think we may have looked at this in a previous conversation that we had, but we're just going to play a little clip.

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This is Carolyn Corey Capacity, whereby the

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brain functions as a whole.

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Anyone can do this.

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In fact, without knowing the anatomy of the brain, all you have to do is focus your intent on the center of the brain.

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And that information is then distributed through the corpus callosum to the two hemispheres, which allows you to understand what's going on and through the endocrine system, which then allows you to feel what is going on.

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Because the brain is now engaged at its full 100% capacity.

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You can now perceive and experience things beyond the normal human range.

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Meaning beyond time and space.

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If this is true, then we should be able to transcend any limitation of our physicality, perhaps even our eyesight.

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Our first stop is in the uk where we encounter children who are using blindfolds to access their superhuman abilities.

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We're gonna play some games.

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Put your blindfolds on for me, please.

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Ready?

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Justin.

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Tell me what's on this card.

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Teacup.

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And now tell me what's on this card.

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Tiger.

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Isabella.

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What is the shape and color of this tongue?

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Kind of like a circle.

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And I don't.

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And it's not really.

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It's kind of like see through.

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Here's yet another example of how consciousness can interact with the physical world beyond what science claims to be possible.

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When we work with the blindfold, it's so that we can encourage the children to use the vision that they have with their higher consciousness.

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Evie, tell me the shape and color of the stone.

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It's red and kind of a circle.

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Yes.

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Evie, tell me what I'm holding in my hand.

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A wooden spoon.

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We expand their consciousness beyond that that they believe or understand.

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That they can take them out into universal energies.

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Okay.

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Now let's go search for that beautiful inner light of yours.

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I can see it.

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Fantastic.

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Bring the light out into the area around you.

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Your light field.

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Good boy.

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Well done.

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And then they can work with the higher consciousness seeing because they have the potential to see from every cell in their body.

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Now you're going to read a line each.

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The other dragons were purple with smooth shiny scales.

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But Marmaduke was faded orange with sticky out scales.

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Excellent.

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Good girl.

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It's like witnessing a miracle.

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It's really.

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It's just beautiful to watch.

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George was enjoying a quiet evening in the Heavenly Hippos Wildlife Park.

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Suddenly he spotted a group of animals creeping past.

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The first time I actually saw it for myself when I come to do my training, the only word I can think of is emotional.

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It was very emotional.

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Pitter patter.

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The rain was tapping and the windows and the wind was banging.

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When my son started to raid and I saw him raiding, our day out is ruined.

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They kind of shine.

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It's just amazing.

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No mouse would put a pool out in that weather.

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Needless to say, I wanted to know what it felt like to experience the physical world through these blindfolds.

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Totally dark.

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Yes.

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Wow.

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Witnessing these incredible children up close got us on a journey to discovering others around the world who are applying similar methodologies to achieve mind blowing results.

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At MPUSA in Ogden Utah.

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A blindfold technique called Vibravision helps you sense the vibration of various objects in the physical world.

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All physical matter in the universe is actually a form of energy that's made up of atoms, and those atoms are cycling or vibrating at a certain frequency.

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Practicing Vibravision gives us the ability to access our sensors and to perceive those vibrations and then convert it into a usable mental image we call mindset.

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Red, yellow, blue, yellow, orange, blue, green.

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We can see the unseen to do things that are thought of as impossible.

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Eight of clubs.

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Ten of diamonds.

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Five of hearts.

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One, two.

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Free at mpusa.

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Folks of all ages demonstrate these incredible skills inside the academy and out in the real world.

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How about the grilled chicken and sausage gumbo?

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Gumbo.

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How much do they cost again to 29.90.

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Correct.

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And Colton, what were you just touching?

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All right, what color is that?

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That's true.

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Let's find the Lays brand.

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Old spice body wash.

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Very good.

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From Utah, we make our way to Stuttgart, Germany.

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There, children are using a different approach to the methodology and display skills with impeccable accuracy.

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In the beginning, it felt a bit weird when I was able to see without my eyes, but after a while, you get used to it.

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I was rather skeptical in the beginning, but once I learned it myself, my reaction was, wow, this really works.

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I believe much more is possible than we know.

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Human beings have a lot more skills that they could develop.

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I also have a granddaughter who learned this skill and bops around with the mask here today.

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I'm amazed how well it works.

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Groups around the world are using various techniques to achieve very similar results.

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I decided to investigate the origin of these methodologies, which led me to Infovision in Moscow, Russia, and its founder, Mark Komisarov, who discovered blindfold perception 20 years ago.

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We developed a methodology that first worked with kids.

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Then I tried it with a blind kid, and it worked, too.

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Then I tried it with adults, and it turns out the methodology also works with adults.

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And that is what I've been doing for the past 20 years.

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So what did you think of that?

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Love it.

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Absolutely love it.

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So I was just smiling the whole time.

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Is it.

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That's the kind of reality TV I like.

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Like, that's not.

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I.

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You can't fake that.

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I don't, you know, because they're, you know, skeptics will be like, oh, they could see.

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I'm like, now again, proof is in the pudding.

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And to me, I mean, a lot of the things that they showed there, people would say, well, those are just superhuman kids, superhuman adults, superhuman Whatevers.

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It's like, no, that's just normal human.

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Yes.

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And it's a set of circumstances, tests, tools and techniques to bring out the real super in the normal human.

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That's exciting.

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That'd be fun to have that normalized and in the classroom.

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Really exciting.

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And I liked at the very end too, they were saying they tried it on a blind person, an adult adult who's already been formed in all the programming and things.

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But it still can, it still can come out.

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Yeah, I like that.

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Yeah, go ahead.

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Well, no, I was just gonna say I have been on shows where folks have asked, you know, but do you have any psychic kids or do you know any psychic.

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And go, yeah.

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But then I. I usually segue, but there's several that don't know they are.

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They all are, and they just don't know it yet.

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And it's not about being.

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Playing, you know, a trick and being a psychic or having these things.

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It's about using it to be confidently stepping into all these different abilities.

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I mean, that's one skill set.

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But to be empowered by a skill set such as that, it's going to bring up all these other amazing things and to imagine moving through life that confidently that you have that in your back pocket and knowing that other people you meet can too and do too.

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It also brings it back to from even our first few minutes when I.

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Why I stepped out of education system and why they're coming after children with medical.

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And you know, they're.

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They're affecting parts of their brain so they detach so that they're afraid of what these children and adults, what folks can do when they develop these skills that everyone has.

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They're not going to need to work for that, work for somebody else.

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They're not going to need to fit in a box.

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They're not going to want to.

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And it's not going to feel comfortable or healthy to do so.

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So there goes their factory line,

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right?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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No, I love that documentary from her.

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I think the last time was when we did that episode with Sherry I saw.

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But he didn't have that extra clip at the end.

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Like I saw an extra here that I don't remember seeing.

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Yeah.

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So another required viewing for people.

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I think that there's more going on about the.

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The great reveal of the knowledge apocalypse.

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The curated narrative is crap and it's been uncovered and that has become the great reveal which is causing people to have the great rethink and that's leading to the great reimagining this is the reality we inhabit.

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All of the crap that's going on and all the manufactured nonsense and the distractions that are being created by all of these social and political clumps of crap around the conversations and the social fabric are just.

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They're meant to distract and to keep people from being able to actually explore the reality of reality, which is what we are seeing, what you and I are talking about here today.

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There are.

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If you reclassify or reframe the term superhuman, I would say, going back to our conversation about LeBron and what he does in his skill set, he's kind of superhuman.

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You can go, well, he's super in his humanness of what he does.

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Absolutely.

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But the psychic abilities, the vibrational, the frequency, the sensing abilities, the power of just the innate nature of consciousness, which is psychic.

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We're never in the now, we're always in the next.

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We're always thinking of what the next thing is.

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The now is a frequency stamp that's now put in the memory bank.

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The next is where you're engaged and like what Carolyn did with those kids with that.

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I love it.

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I love the concept of it.

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The name mindfold.

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It's not a blindfold, it's a mindfold.

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Mindful.

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You're actually unfolding the powers of the mind.

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So this is, I think, where the conversation needs to be.

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And I am so grateful for you to come on and have this conversation today.

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I think it's been exactly what I wanted even more and expected.

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So that was.

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That was really fun.

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I'm excited for these sound bites.

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Yeah, that was.

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You're the appropriate person to help bring that.

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Get that out of me as well as go on that ride with me, because that was a really fun conversation.

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Thank you for that.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And I wrote that link of that whiteboard.

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I want to send that to my parents.

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Yeah, I'll send you the link.

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But it'll also obviously be in the show when we get it out there so people can enjoy the conversation.

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Sure.

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Hopefully at least half as much as I enjoyed having it with you today.

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I'm so grateful.

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Heidi, thank you very much for.

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Thank you being here and doing it.

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Thank you.

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And thank you for seeing me and recognizing me and supporting what I do and being like, hey, this deserves a.

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A talk.

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So thank you.

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It does.

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And links to everything about you, where you're at, your YouTube, your link tree, and everything will be in the description.

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And there's going to be more of these because I think we just kind of went in and scratched the surface a little bit.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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And I'll be in the classroom in just a couple of weeks, so I'll keep you up to date with what's going on in there.

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If I'm trying anything new, what the collective energy is like and how that's

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working out, I think that would be an extremely valuable thing to share because as we said, there's a lot of stuff out there, a lot of confusion and chaos and crap in the conversation of consciousness.

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But there is reality going on.

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Like we talked about today.

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There are demonstrable empirical experiences and data that we can all see and experience for ourselves that is real.

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It's not story based, it's reality based.

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And that's where we need to spend our time.

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So, yes.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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